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  Does it make you sick too??

  by mama1119 in

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  i was watching some youtube stuff yestersday and came across all the 2006 convention videos, and just watching them and hearing the songs and the dramas and seeing all the people dresses like they have for the last 20 years made me feel sick to my stomach, and all panicky....does this happen to anyone else?

  when you see jw doing what you used to do, does it give you a little pts??

  (post traumatic syndrome).

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  grey matters

  made me feel sick to my stomach, and all panicky....does this happen to anyone else? When you see JW doing what you used to do, does it give you a little PTS?? (post traumatic syndrome).

  Yes it does make me feel sick and panicky too. I wonder why we feel like that?

  I have felt that way too. The advice from my therapist - you feel that way because you were part of a high control group that did its best to keep you in the center of its circle of influence. They have conditioned you to feel anxiety when you approach the outer edge of their circle.

  This makes me feel frustrated. I wonder how long it will take before I can watch these things with no emotional effect.

  Good question. I don't know. I get angry when I feel the anxiety we are talking about, because I know logically that there is no valid reason for it. But 30 years of conditioning is not easy to undo. My advice is just to be aware of the feeling and the reason for it. Don't put too much meaning into it. You're ok. It's normal to feel that way, given your experience.

  The reason I still do the therapy thing is that it helps me to understand irrational feelings like this. I find that the better I understand them, the less they affect me, and the stronger I become.
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  Reexamine is back!

  by grey matters in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have been trying this site about once a week since it went offline.

  i tried just now and... it's back!.

  i didn't see it in any recent posts..

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  grey matters

  I have been trying this site about once a week since it went offline. I tried just now and... It's Back!

  www.reexamine.org

  Sorry if everyone else already knows this. I didn't see it in any recent posts.
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  I've been away for a few days....anything exciting happen?

  by TresHappy in

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  hope all is well with the board.

  please stop by and say hello....

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  grey matters

  Armaggedon happened! You missed it! Jeez!

  (It was invisible, of course)
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  garybuss

  by evita in

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  garybuss

  your sense of humor makes my day!

  thanks for showing up here to provide insight and comic relief.

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  grey matters

  My favorite Gary Buss-ism (so far):

  "That's the great thing about delusions... anything's possible."
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  Why did you choose the Alias that you did?

  by The wanderer in

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  being curious about why people do or act the way they.

  do led me to this discussion.

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  grey matters

  Hi, sorry I'm late!

  Grey Matters for 3 reasons:

  1st - The brain reference. I think intelligence and thought matter. It eventually became obvious to me that the dubs don't.

  2nd - Experience matters. After I left, I was upset with myself for staying as long as I did. But hopefully I came out of it wiser as well as older.

  3rd - Dubs see life in black and white. Very legalistic, very inflexible. I think life is a lot more complicated than that. I tend to see things in shades of grey.

  Oh, and grey, not gray? Well, I work a lot with a few Canadian companies where people tend to spell it that way, so that is just how I am used to seeing it spelled.

  Someday, when I get around to it, I will find one of those cartoonish pictures mapping the brain and use that as my avatar. I have been really swamped at work though, and haven't had time to look for one.
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  I DID IT!! I DID IT!!! I DID IT!!!!!

  by pmouse in

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  i have finished my last class and will graduate on october 14th with my bachelors degree in business administration/management thirty three years after graduating from high school and 30 years after leaving the borg!

  one more step in the healing process.

  and one more step forward with my life.. paula.

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  grey matters

  Awesome! Way to go!
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  Shunning mom is floored by UN scandal..first she's heard of it.

  by restrangled in

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  due to my husbands interactions with my mom with questions about the history of the wbts, i received a phone call from her.

  (keep in mind she is 72 years a witness).

  i brought up the un thing and she said, thats from apostates.

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  Whoa. Yeah, I'd like to hear what happens next.
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  My Story

  by ladybug25 in

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  my parents were baptized when i was three years old.

  so, you could say that i was "born and raised" as a jw.

  i was baptized at age 11. i was a regular auxilary pioneer from age 14 to 15. my parents became inactive at about age 14. it was very hard trying to be a "good young sister" especially after being told you're a burden to the pioneers that have to always provide rides in service and to/from the meetings.

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  He battles more so than I do because his family wont let up. They bring us the magazines and preach to him everytime they talk.

  Yeah, they really need to stop doing that. They are clearly causing a lot of tension that could cause a lot of damage. Some of us react to being pushed like that by pushing back, really hard. That can lead to a serious confrontation. Sometimes we internalize it, and that can be worse. I would really encourage your husband to seek counsel from a therapist. I am not ashamed to say that that has worked well for me. It has helped me to stand my ground (a process my therapist refers to as "individuation") without creating an atomic fireball of confrontation that will cause a complete end to the relationship between my parents and I. It has also helped me to realize that engaging in self destructive behaivior in an attempt to spite the JW's only hurts me.

  Most on this board have been where you guys are. We look forward to seeing more of you here.

  Oh, and please try to stop worrying about "Armaggedon". The only thing you really need to know about the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses is that they are wrong. Did the "end" come in 1914 when they originally said it would? No. Did it come in 1925 when they said it would? No. Did in come in 1975? No. How about a few years later, when Eve was supposedly created? No. 8 years from now it will be 2014, 100 years after 1914. It won't come then either. It is true that Jesus said that "only the Father knows the day and the hour", but these idiots can't even nail it down to the century. It's pathetic. They simply don't know what they are talking about. So don't worry about it. It isn't going to happen. There are many other pursuits and concerns that are far more worthy of your time.

  Best wishes to both of you. This is a tough thing. But you can get through it, as many of us have.
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  This makes me sick!!

  by Ade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just read this as part of one of jgnat's posts its obviously nothing against her take a look and comment.i mean who are they trying to fool.

  out of all creation they are "groaning" the most .

  our identification as jehovah's witnesses .

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  grey matters

  Heaven forbid that an active JW were to identify themselves as associated with the Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society. That might make the Society responsible

  Or a car accident that a publisher has. Remember the car accident involving the Bethelite that got the Society sued because the plaintiff didn't buy the "he's just a volunteer" argument.
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

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  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  grey matters

  I would add that if you personally don't think it should be a disfellowshipping offence to be discussing matters such as this in a forum such as this, if you personally would not disfellowship a publisher for doing so, then why should you feel bad about it?